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'Big Love' denies wrongdoing with U's logo

By Michael McFall

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Published: Friday, July 10, 2009

Updated: Tuesday, July 21, 2009

“Big Love” decided it won’t be showing any love to the U.

HBO released a statement Wednesday that it did not violate federal law by using the U's logo and name in its most recent episode of “Big Love,” which aired in March.

The name and logo’s use in the episode was brought to the U administration’s attention as a complete surprise. HBO had never asked for permission to use the trademark, which is a violation of federal trademark law, said U spokeswoman Coralie Alder. The U’s agent, Collegiate Images, issued a cease-and-desist letter to HBO on Tuesday, requesting that they erase the name and logo from the episode and any reruns of the episode in the future.

HBO had until July 20 to respond. But they wasted no time in saying no.

“HBO is confident that nothing in our program violates anyone’s rights and we will be responding in due course,” its statement said. The network’s attorneys will be contacting the U’s about what legal actions each side might take. However, they did not hint as to whether the name and logo will be left out of reruns of the episode.

U President Michael Young condemned the cable network on Tuesday for using the U’s block red logo and name without asking them first. Using them could lead the public to wrongly believe that the U is associated with “Big Love” when it isn’t in any way, he said.

In the March 22 episode, a U letterhead sporting the block U logo and name is displayed as a report from one of the U’s research labs. The trademarks in question are on screen for about three seconds. In the show, Bill Henrickson, the polygamist main character, finds a historical letter from former Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints President Wilford Woodruff that legitimizes the practice of polygamy. The U report in question authenticates the fictional letter.

The U is happy to sponsor programs and events, and has in the past, Coralie Alder said Tuesday. The difference is that the school was asked to lend its name, trademark and reputation, where as HBO appropriated it without so much as a head’s up, she said.

HBO spokeswoman Tonya Owens could not be immediately reached for comment. Alder declined to comment further until the U has seen and reviewed HBO’s refusal.

The Associated Press contributed to this article.

m.mcfall@chronicle.utah.edu

Editor's note -- U President Michael Young condemns the cable network's action; he does not condone it.

Comments

20 comments
U Student
Tue Aug 11 2009 03:46
Free publicity or not, with regards to an academic institution, bad publicity does exist. You don't put a legitimate logo on a document --fictional or not-- meant to legitimize the premise of a television program when the proper owners of that logo don't approve. It's irresponsible, dishonest, and unnecessary.
Jeff
Mon Jul 20 2009 23:14
to mephistopheleus-lmnops-bs, whatever your Dungeon's and Dragons character name is,
Your ignorance and bigotry are evidenced by your 'wacky magic underwear rituals' comment. No such thing is a part of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, although you have been probably taught to believe that. Your lack of respect for what is sacred to many people stinks just as badly as HBO's lack of respect for the religion of 13 million people world wide. Should the U request that HBO not use the school logo? Of course, I wouldn't want to be associated with the slandering of any religion. Should they take legal action, I don't think so. I think the blurring of logos on all types of shows now borders on the absurd, almost as absurd as your backwards view on the faith of my fathers.
mephistopholes
Mon Jul 20 2009 20:02
Ditto U Alumn 2x. Whether all of you condemning this admit to being LDS or not, you're just mad because this show aired your wacky magic underwear rituals on TV. I don't watch television, but I'm sure there have been worse infractions involving the U's logo in the past, albeit by more "acceptable" programs. The sooner the U recognizes that they are viewed as one of the few schools in the state not run with a Mormon agenda, the better. As a fellow alumni, I second that motion to "get over it".
Luna Lovegood
Mon Jul 20 2009 02:39
Big Love is easily one of the trashiest shows on television right now... the producers of the show have backstabbed a number people, entire religions, and the U should in no way be apart of that... it may only be three seconds but this show has crossed the line more than once... sue them and if not cancel any subscription too them... the dorms get those channels... cancel the subscription and show that the U does not support a show with no respect.
Robert
Fri Jul 17 2009 17:46
The show gave the U free publicity. As a former Alumni living out of state, I can tell you that we need all the publicity we can get. No one outside of Uah even knows where the U is.
Ustudent1
Fri Jul 17 2009 17:24
Hopefully, "Big Love" will continue to do illegal and untasteful things on its show that it will eventually tick off enough people that the show will get canned. The producers of the show ought to be ashamed of the sly way they blur the line between the LDS Church and the fictional crap on their show. I hope the U sues them big time.
amazed
Wed Jul 15 2009 15:02
Oh for Pete's sake, Michael, find something significant to do.
U_GRAD
Wed Jul 15 2009 09:49
I agree with U Alumn 2x, HBO did give the U free publicity. The U of U is now only creating this negative publicity with their statements and, very soon, their actions. I hope that there is no legal action taken as it would be a huge waste of money, which we can not afford at this time.

StellaBB, your comment was almost as bad as this article. To even think that the U decline in recent rankings is due to "its link with Big Love," is completely absurd.

Your name
Tue Jul 14 2009 16:41
For the record, I'm a Utah alumnus, LDS, and resident of Pennsylvania.

I think the problem is that U President Michael Young condemns the SHOW, not HBO's actions. Pres. Young appears to be overreacting and/or attempting to score a few "brownie points" with the church and legislature. I doubt Pres. Machen would have felt so compelled to make a issue out of this.

It's already been reported, and is widely known, the LDS church hates this show. They feel it damages their brand as many outsiders don't know there is a difference between the LDS church and their splinter group, the FLDS. Since most LDS people in Utah feel HBO is an evil station (they show rated R movies...with swear words and nudity), it's likely few have ever watched that show, and really don't know what all their outrage is about. But they're outraged nonetheless. They've been taught to be.

I don't know what all the outrage is about either since I've never watched that show. Not because it offends me, but because I just really don't care. Nobody out here really cares about polygamy either. We have our own issues.

I believe if the LDS church wants to stop appearing "weird", we should stop proudly proclaiming what a "peculiar" people we are. I'm LDS, and even I think most of us are weird.

I LOVED my time spent up at the U, as it is a great school, with a great tradition, and a great education system. I hope my children attend someday. Nevertheless, I'm glad I don't in Utah anymore.

staff
Tue Jul 14 2009 14:48
The U logo shouldn't be used without prior permission, common sense. Also, someone really should proofread the articles before printing them - so many mistakes!
REN
Tue Jul 14 2009 14:01
As a U Alum myself, I think the U asking HBO to drop the logo (and more, to ask first next time) is fine but would rather not see any costly legal action taken.
StellaBB
Tue Jul 14 2009 13:32
And you can blame the state for not getting a raise. Not the money that's already been allocated to the legal office for anticipated annual law suits and legal fees.
Betty
Tue Jul 14 2009 13:31
The audience for Big Love is not polygamists--it's mostly well-educated, sophisticated urbanites--primarily women and gay men.
Daniel
Tue Jul 14 2009 13:30
This is silly. Who cares.
StellaBB
Tue Jul 14 2009 13:30
Actually, having the U logo associated with the show is viewed as negative publicity. The U does not want to be associated with the negative perception of polygamy. It hurts student recruitment, fundraising, etc. In fact, the U decline in recent rankings (peer perception) is due in small part to its link with Big Love.
Your name
Tue Jul 14 2009 13:27
Anyone stupid enough to watch HBO and their annual reruns deserves what they get - a Hollywood version of life totally contaminated with their narrow minded biases and inexperience. I say stick it to 'em Utah, take $$ for an answer.
alumnus, two degrees
Tue Jul 14 2009 13:25
Drop it! What we've done so far is stupid enough, but at least it's in the dead zone of vacation time. We will look far more stupid if we pursue this, and it's not something we need. I strongly recommend someone actually watch the episods, which i did. They did not say the U authenticated the letter, just that the paper and ink were consistent w/the time period, which was later demonstrated to be correct as the evil polygamist later admitted that his son had forged it, using authentic ink and paper. Let this idiocy lie where jesus flung it. I will be furious if you spend the raise we didn't get this year on this kind of silliness. We are acting more like BYU every time I see the Chrony, and I don't like that either.
mrlucidity
Tue Jul 14 2009 10:46
Zero accountability is the popular thing right now. Why would we expect any less from some low-life cable producers? Its easier to ask for forgiveness(or deny any wrong doing, as in this case) than to ask permission.
U Alumn 2x
Mon Jul 13 2009 19:05
This is ridiculous. It was only on the show for a few seconds. Now, explain this to me. What's so wrong with the show having the U on it when many of the tourist publications featuring Salt Lake City prominently show the U on the mountainside? Why is the U not going after them asking that it be removed? I think the U administration is getting a little to much in lockstep with the Mormon church and BYU. Grow a set guys and get over it. Obviously the show has quite a following. It's in it's fifth or sixth year now. As a U alumn (2x) I hope HBO does stick to it and runs another episode with the block U in it. Companies pay millions of dollars to get their logos on the big (and small) screen. Just ask Coca-Cola how much it has to pay to have its products shown. HBO did it for the U for FREE!!!
U Student
Fri Jul 10 2009 20:50
"U President Michael Young condoned the cable network on Tuesday..." I think you may have wanted to use the word 'condemned'. Condoned implies they approved it which according to the article, they didn't.






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