College Media Network - Search the largest news resource for college students by college students Jobs and internships for students -

Hinckley panelists decry Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell

By Chris Mumford

|

Published: Thursday, October 8, 2009

Updated: Thursday, October 8, 2009

LGBT-RGB.jpg

Tyler Cobb

Ken Verdoia leads a forum on gay rights in the military Wednesday at the Hinckley Institute of Politics.

Opponents of the military’s Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy say their patience has run out: They’ve been forced to lie about who they are for too long.

“At the end of the four years, I said, ‘I just can’t do it anymore, I can’t keep lying,’ ” said Sarah Hjalmarson, who served as a medic in Afghanistan for 13 months and is studying health promotion and education at the U. “And so I got out of the Army for the girl, in that sense.”

Hjalmarson appeared along with several fellow gay former members of the military at the Hinckley Institute of Politics forum “ ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ Turns 15: LGBT in the Military today,” on Wednesday.

Hjalmarson said she had planned on becoming a career medic for the military but left after deciding that she couldn’t accept being forced to suppress her identity indefinitely.

Since the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy was passed in 1993, at least 12,500 soldiers have been discharged for being gay as of 2008, according to the U.S. Department of Defense.

“My saying three words truthfully is somehow illegal,” said panelist Lt. Dan Choi, who was recently discharged from the military for revealing that he’s gay on “The Rachel Maddow Show” on MSNBC. “And those three words weren’t the ones you might have heard on Rachel Maddow; the three words that I told were to my boyfriend. I told him ‘I love you,’ and how can that be illegal?”

Choi, a West Point graduate and a veteran of the Iraq war, described the contradictions raised by Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, saying that he was ordered never to lie as a cadet, even though being honest about his sexuality would result in his expulsion from the military.

“(The West Point code of honor) doesn’t say that straight cadets will not lie, but gay cadets, it’s OK if you do—because under Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell code, we’re ordered to lie about who we are,” he said.

Cliff Rosky, a U law professor, said asking someone to choose to be straight made no more sense, and was no more justifiable, than telling a Jewish soldier to convert to a different religion or asking people to change their race in order to remain in the military.

Although significant numbers of lawmakers in Washington, D.C., have expressed the desire to repeal the policy, President Barack Obama’s administration has indicated that the issue isn’t likely to come up until 2010, when the economy is in better shape and health care reform isn’t in focus.

The panelists said their patience has run out.

“I fully disagree with the fact that if we should be patient, we should get our way because silence is our best hope,” Choi said.

In the meantime, gay and lesbian soldiers will have to refer to their partner by vague pronouns or fake names, as Choi and Hjalmarson said they were forced to do.

“I took it very personally last November when, after fighting for four years, and (spending) 13 months overseas, in this war, to have it slapped in my face that I really am, according to this nation, a second-class citizen,” Hjalmarson said.

c.mumford@chronicle.utah.edu
 

Recommended: Articles that may interest you

6 comments

Sergeant Bob.
Sun Feb 14 2010 20:24
Maybe the US military wasn't ment for openly gay Soldiers, (there fore don't ask dont tell)... come on, why try to make the argument that all these "second world nations" (ie. UN, Canada, Isreal...) are, in any way, comparable with the good ole US Military??? I think not... I would no more want to compete with these countries for "political correctness" than hand over the liberties of this great country to some yahoo that feels they disereve something that they are not ready to fight and die for. I don't speak for all the Soldiers that I served with in both Iraq and Afghanistan, but I have met several that are dying to go on MSNBC to proclaim their homosexuality. What ever happened to serving your Country for the sake of your Country, instead of your own agenda. I am sure this one will be delete but I feel better getting it offa my chest...
Brian
Thu Oct 22 2009 20:28
RE: Mr. Anonymous:
"“(The West Point code of honor) doesn’t say that straight cadets will not lie, but gay cadets, it’s OK if you do—because under Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell code, we’re ordered to lie about who we are,” he said.

False. Don't Ask Don't Tell means DON'T lie - don't talk about it. It doesn't say lie about it."

Apparently, you have not been in the military, Sir, or lived in our society. Our romantic relationships with other people are a big part of who we are, and inevitably, they come up in day-to-day conversations. So, when a commander or platoon sergeant asks a gay soldier, airman, Marine, or sailor about his/her partner, what is that servicemember supposed to do? The only choice in normal conversation is to lie, to use non-descriptive pronouns, or make up names. Notice, DADT and the UCMJ don't forbid servicemembers from talking about their relationships.

Hayekian
Thu Oct 8 2009 17:03
Mike, I admire your honesty. If you and other honest progressives would add some consistency to your political diet, we might get somewhere (abolish the Fed, end tariffs, abolish 50% of all Federal agencies, branches, bureaus...).

Daniel, don't waste your time. He contradicts himself the moment his quote ends.

Daniel
Thu Oct 8 2009 11:32
Ah, once again a staggering lack of understanding from Mr. Anonymous. We can always count on him for a really ignorant comment.
Mr. Anonymous
Thu Oct 8 2009 08:54
“(The West Point code of honor) doesn’t say that straight cadets will not lie, but gay cadets, it’s OK if you do—because under Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell code, we’re ordered to lie about who we are,” he said.

False. Don't Ask Don't Tell means DON'T lie - don't talk about it. It doesn't say lie about it.

Mike
Thu Oct 8 2009 08:18
the administration has dropped the ball on this one. As one of the 12,500 soldiers that has been discharged under the present policy and as a voter who supported Obama i am discouraged by how he is dragging his feet. Next year will be an election year and I expect to hear "well it's an election year and we can't do change the policy in an election year we have to look at the big picture" or some other crappy excuse along those lines.






log out