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U conference caught in Macedonian dispute

By Michael McFall

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Published: Thursday, November 5, 2009

Updated: Thursday, November 5, 2009

The U stuck its foot into an international dispute about a country’s name.

When the U’s department of languages and literature chose to host the globe-trotting seventh Macedonian-North American Conference on Macedonian Studies, beginning Thursday, it stepped on a land mine between Greece and the Republic of Macedonia. Greeks from around the United States inundated the U administration with angry e-mails to cancel the conference, but U President Michael Young issued a statement Oct. 26, saying that this week’s conference, a beneficial academic pursuit, will go on as planned.

“We will have a uniformed security officer on hand,” said Jane Hacking, chairwoman of the languages and literature department. “They’re aware that there might be problems.”

The Republic of Macedonia wants its southern neighbor, Greece, to recognize its country as constitutionally Macedonia and its people as national Macedonians, even though its population is historically Slavic. But Greece doesn’t want another ethnic group usurping the name of its ethnically Macedonian population, which moved out of the region the Slavs now occupy and into modern-day Greece centuries ago. The Republic of Macedonia’s government claims its historically Slavic people deserve the Macedonia title after having lived in the region for a millennium.

The U entered the conflict when it chose to host the conference, infuriating those who don’t support the Republic of Macedonia’s claim to the name.

“You are basically supporting a group that just decided one day to claim the important, historical name of Macedonia for themselves,” said Helen Karipidis from New York in an e-mail to the President’s Office. “Perhaps, if Westminster College decided one day that they deserved to call their institution the University of Utah, that would not bother you at all?”

The U backed its choice to host the conference and released a statement last week saying it supports research and academic pursuits that enhance the school’s understanding of the world.

Hacking said she expects Friday, the second day of the conference, to be the most contentious. A panel scheduled for that day is specifically about Slavic refugees from northern Greece, an issue that has sparked threats against outspoken authors on the matter, Hacking said.

The United States is one of 126 countries in the United Nations that recognizes Greece’s northern neighbor as the Republic of Macedonia, even though Greece has its own state, Macedonia, for its ethnic group. Three American universities and three universities in the Republic of Macedonia have hosted the conference since it began in 1991 and subsequently repeated it every three years.

Hacking said the U is a single school in the middle of a country on the other side of the world from Greece and the Republic of Macedonia’s feud.

“As I said to President Young, this has been under (United Nations) mediation for a number of years,” Hacking said. “I really don’t think that anything we do one way or another is going to decide the issue.”

m.mcfall@chronicle.utah.edu
 

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6 comments
Your name
Thu Nov 19 2009 19:57
1) Vardaska/FYROM* in 1991 SECEDED from YUGOSLAVIA !!!
2) IDENTITY THEFT IS ILLEGAL NO MATTER WHO DOES IT OR WHO IS IGNORANT ENOUGH TO NOT SEE IT

FYROM* “By resolution A/RES/47/225 of 8 April 1993, the General Assembly decided to admit as a Member of the United Nations the State being provisionally referred to for all purposes within the United Nations as "The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" pending settlement of the difference that had arisen over its name”. --- www.un.org/en/members/index.shtml#y

Vardarska/FYROM* is suffering from an identity crisis, created by Tito and Stalin who in their effort to expand communism into Greece in the 1940s invaded northern Greece through southern Yugoslavia and armed/funded communists who were pushed back with the aid of the Truman Doctrine and the Marshal Plan.

United States Secretary of State Edward R. Stetinius, upon learning of communist leaders' Tito and Stalin's attempts to create a "Macedonian" state said: “This Government considers talk of Macedonian ‘nation’, Macedonian ‘Fatherland’, or Macedonian ‘national consciousness’ to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic or political reality, and sees in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece.”

There are over 3 million Macedonian in Greece, and like king Philip and his son Alexander the Great they call themselves Greeks, as do the Athenians, the Spartans, the Cretans, the Eperotes, and all other Greeks from all region of Greece. The Macedonians speak Greek, just like Alexander the Great and King Phillip did in ancient times, and have the same customs, traditions, and ethic identity as all other Greeks. Alexander the Great and his Greek army spread the Greek Language and culture throughout the ancient world ! If he was not Greek he would have spread another language and culture.

More than 350 of the world’s foremost archeologist and historians recently send a letter to president Obama reaffirming that the historical and archeological facts prove beyond any doubt that Macedonia and the Macedonians are Greek. More than 5000 archeological artifacts and other items uncovered in Macedonia only show a Greek link for the Macedonians. Not a single item has been brought forth by the Vardarskans to show that they are anything but Slavs and Albanians.

www.macedonian-heritage.gr/FAQ.html
macedonia-evidence.org/obama-letter.html
macedonia-evidence.org/documentation.html
www.macedonian-heritage.gr/HellenicMacedonia/en/topic_5_1.html
historyofmacedonia.wordpress.com
www.helleniccomserve.com/fyromlomis.html

George
Fri Nov 6 2009 15:42
It's funny that the ancient Greeks considered the Macadonians barbarians (non-Greeks) and that the ancient Macedonians wanted to be Greek so bad that they gave up their language willingly and slowly became Greek speakers after they invaded Greece and then proceeded to spread Greek culture all the way to India and Egypt by force. If only the modern slavic-speaking Macedonians had similar urgings...
Akritas
Fri Nov 6 2009 14:41
First of all I want to apologize from my bad English grammar. As native Macedonian my mother language is Greek and not Slavic as the postmodernists professors that participating in this Conference claim arbitrarily. Greek thesis regarding the name dispute is clear:

"Support a composite name with a geographical qualifier for the state that is for all uses, with the exclusive aim of the names to reflect the reality of the region so as to act as a factor of good neighborhood and not as a factor that poisons the bilateral relations and the climate in the wider region."

As regards U Conference is obvious that will be a new link in the Slavmacedonism(a post modern nationalism ideology) chain. The opposite opinion in this one-side conference will be forbidden. The re-invention of history has been the selected terrain of action. The dispute is not a question of survival and grandeur but an issue of challenging territorial stability. This has led to the extreme position of discarding Slav origin and labeling it as a "derogatory term", an "insult". It is indeed dangerous not to cut ties with the Slav past because this brings the country closer to Bulgaria. At the same time it is convenient to baptize Bulgarian national heroes "Macedonians", to deny the Bulgarian origin of the language spoken, to usurp Greek history and to suppress Bulgarophilia and Grecophilia within the country. A visit to Vergina, Pella and tens of archaeological sites in Greece would be enough to ridicule those who suggest that ancient Macedonians spoke Greek because it was a fashionable thing to do. In effect what some suggest here is that ancient Macedonians did not speak their mother tongue but a "foreign language".

The finally questions that rose in my mind as regards in this revisionist conference are:

(a) The ancient Macedonian culture was invented from the Greeks or the Slavs ?
(b) How you segregate a Greek Macedonian identity with a Slav Macedonian one?
(c) Utah University administrators ought to ask whether we need historical lectures basing on facts or in political motives ?

Thanks for your timing.

Your name
Fri Nov 6 2009 13:16
As a scholar, historical revisionism of the type we see in the conference at U is dangerous. It is dangerous because it creates lies for the generations to come. We need to know history, as it was, not as we want it to have been.
This thing about an armed security officer is bizarre, it's unbelievable that these people feel threatened by emails exercising their democratic rights by protesting the conference and its explicit political aims when the conference itself is funded by two organizations, one of which is explicitly racial in its ideologies, setting up a racial purity argument for FYROM's right to the name and the lands of Macedon, and the other organization is involved in a scandal of framing and blackmailing American politicians to vote pro-Turkey in Congress. These are the issues that the U should examine, it must reflect on the ethics of where it's getting its money because this is scary, we are selling our universities to the highest bidder, no matter what their political aims, and along with this sale comes the imposition of "science" and views which are less than sanguine.
Constantine
Thu Nov 5 2009 19:51
The article above states: 'even though Greece has its own state, Macedonia, for its ethnic group'. This statement is inaccurate and confusing. Greece has a province/geographical region that was and is called Macedonia, after the ancient kingdom of Macedon that gave its name to this exact region. And there is no ethnic group in Greece called Macedonians; this is a geographical term that denotes origin, place of birth, as is for example the term Athenian, (the person who comes from Athens), Spartan (the one from Sparta), etc. When I say I am Macedonian that means that I am a Greek from northern Greece.

Serious scholarship in the fields of Archaeology and Ancient History has concluded on the issue of who the ancient Macedonians were almost two decades ago. There has also been a suggestion by an expert in Hellenistic Antiquity to the people of FYROM to use the name of the land north of the Greek kingdom of Macedonia, that was never part of the Greek world: Paeonia. They could also use the name Dardania. But of course neither the name Paeonia nor that of Dardania could ever hold a key to the Aegean Sea through the port of Thessaloniki...

Conferences such as this are meaningless exercises in historical revisionism and postmodern relativism. Because the actual decisions behind such acts of arrogant and ignorant appropriations have been made by political elites and not by scholars of any kind. It is rather a shame that so many scholars are funded in order to justify with their scholarship geo-strategical re-drawings of maps and re-inventions of people.
Kind Regards
CA
LONDON, UK

Daniel
Thu Nov 5 2009 09:54
I think that the U actually took a good stand for their decision. Not that they couldn't be making a mistake, but you can't let every complaint lead to changing the schedule. Imagining that the conference goes off without a hitch, will the greatest 'damage' done be largely psychological? Recognizing something that could appear innocuous on the surface, the name of a country, is precisely what the U already does. I would appreciate seeing a conference on the inverse of this discussion.