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Greek Row, neighbors finally communicate

By Cameron Beech / President, Sigma Phi Epsilon

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Published: Thursday, October 8, 2009

Updated: Thursday, October 8, 2009

The greek community has received a fair amount of media coverage since school started. So far, articles on vandalism, the new city council noise ordinance and the sanctions placed on Pi Kappa Alpha have mostly defined campus perception of Greek Row. Although this is unfortunate, it is apparent that we still are not talking enough about the real issue in the greek community: neighborhood relations. In fact, this key issue is responsible for almost all of the conflict on Greek Row during the past 10 months.

Let’s face it, there have been conflicts between the greeks and their neighbors for the past 100 years, and we aren’t going to solve them all in a day. But we can take steps now to begin the process of reconciliation so that those who come after us can enjoy positive relations with the neighbors who surround Greek Row. For this détente to occur, however, both sides must come to understand each other.

In this pursuit, I invited Beth Arnett, one of Greek Row’s neighbors, to eat dinner with my chapter Monday night. For the past several months, it has been apparent that Arnett and other neighbors are tired of certain kinds of behavior on Greek Row. In fact, she and other neighbors have organized a neighborhood council, filed an enormous number of complaints with the Dean of Students Office and routinely call the police for what they consider to be ordinance infractions. This naturally has led to dissatisfaction on the part of the greeks, and so here we sit in an increasingly tense stalemate. My goal of inviting Arnett to dinner was to break the stalemate so that we can begin to solve the real problems. After all, being mad and simply complaining is not going to solve anything.

Arnett spent more than two hours with my chapter, and we are pleased with what we achieved. More than just getting to know one of our neighbors as a person, we came to understand some of the issues that drive her and other neighbors to act as they do. Loud parties interrupt Arnett’s dinner. Screaming sorority sisters wake her family up at night. Blatant disrespect directed at her by fraternity brothers makes her feel as though she is not a part of her own neighborhood.

After hearing Arnett’s concerns, some members of my chapter and I expressed our own. We believe that the neighbors harass us when they make calls to the police for issues that do not violate city ordinances. We have the perception that the neighbors’ endgame is the unjustified dismantling of Greek Row and our way of life. Because of much of the neighbors’ behavior, we feel as though we are not welcome in our own neighborhood.

For me, Arnett’s willingness to meet with Sigma Phi Epsilon was a turning point. She came to the dinner with a specific list of the things that she feels can be fixed, and I did the same. We clearly outlined some of the steps that we will take in the coming weeks to alleviate much of the past conflict that has come to define greek-neighbor relations.

Together, we are going to communicate better to identify the specific sources of ordinance-violating noise so that we can address it without involving law enforcement. We are going to show each other more respect so we can develop good relationships that last. We SigEps (and hopefully all greeks) are going to more carefully consider our behavior because we understand that what we do affects the quality of our neighbors’ lives. In return, we hope to get the support of our neighbors when it comes to police and university and city relations.

As president of Sigma Phi Epsilon, I made a commitment to be a better communicator when it comes to neighborhood relations. Arnett made the same commitment with regard to the neighbors. We hope that during the next few weeks, we can create a model for future interaction between the greeks and the rest of the neighborhood. I know Arnett joins me in hoping that such a model will represent a real and lasting change in how our greek community interacts with its neighbors.

During the past several months, it has become clear that both sides have major issues. We have done a good job of making demons out of each other, but we have not done a good job of dedicating time to finding solutions. That ends now.

It’s time for both sides to step up and start acting like the adults we all are. It’s time to stop simply talking and start walking. It’s time to realize that the current situation is hardly one conducive to learning or living. The time to improve greek-neighbor relations has arrived, and Sigma Phi Epsilon is excited to lead the way.

letters@chronicle.utah.edu

 

Comments

15 comments
Your name
Tue Oct 20 2009 12:25
Be patient....... the struggling economy, expensive dues, silly rules, dilapidating houses, and a general realization that the Greek system has no place in modern college life, will slowly but surely spell the ruin and closure of the greek system at the U. The options available to students...ie....clubs, student government, LDS social groups and service and leadership groups are so much more worthwhile than the greeks. And students are seeing those options as valuable and cheaper! Soon the chapters will close and the homes sold to individual buyers....it is the future!
Ellie
Fri Oct 16 2009 19:20
Lumping all of the Greeks together is as inaccurate as any other generalization. How is painting the problems of "the Greeks" with that wide a brushstroke any different that "the gays", "the blacks", "the Mormons", or "all women", etc?

Why else would you join a fraternity or sorority than to be lumped together? Seriously?

Oh and by the way, it is not a choice for gays, blacks and women to be in their respective groups. It is a choice to join a Greek organization.

Not "Disappointed"
Mon Oct 12 2009 14:59
Leave it to someone ("Disappointed") to rain on the parade. Communication and outreach occurs and they're not satisfied with it. What's it going to take to make you happy?
Disappointed
Sat Oct 10 2009 14:39
Unfortunately Sig Ep Alum, members of your fratenrity are not acting like adults. When I received Beth Arnett’s email to residents that the Sig Eps had stepped forward to forge an alliance with their neighbors I was very please. Her email put the Sig Eps on a pedestal that I wondered if they deserved, with not one negative comment included, only praise for a group of young men who were demonstrating great courage. That’s why I am so disappointed with your article, Mr. Beech. I am trying to keep in mind that you are young, immature, and that you are attempting to save face with a system that demands loyalty when you needlesly include in your article that that neighbors spend their time harassing Greeks over minor issues and that we appear to want nothing more than the destruction of the entire system. This is hardly the way to start meaningful negotiations.

You ask that we all behave like adults. In response to that I want to tell Chronicle readers that crime statistics from the SLCPD indicate that during the past three years, 60 percent of all crime (and I am speaking of crime and not noise disturbance or trash) being committed in Federal Heights and the Greater Avenues is being committed close to and in front of and in back of fraternities. Mr. Beech, I am less concerned with your music and the cackling of sorority girls late at night than I am when I witness those who return to their cars from Greek Row, dead drunk and in no state to drive, to then get in their cars and drive out into the City to threaten the lives of innocent people. I’m less concerned with the noise in your house than I am when I am told that young men and women are passing out drunk from alcohol poisoning in Greek houses, with that behvior being unreported or concealed by both fraternities and sororities. I am less concerned with your trash than I am with the destruction of my property and the purposeful vandalism that I have had to deal with on my property this year, which has amounted to hundreds of dollars in repairs. I am less concerned when you urinate on your own back wall than when you urinate on my property or when an individual, high on illegal mushrooms consumed at a fraternity party, and in the nude, attempts to rip down a neighbor’s fence in the middle of the night. I do not want to get rid of the system. I want YOU to get rid of the rotten apples in your barrel. I want you to admit that serious crime is being committed, and I want you to contact the police when you see a crime being committed instead of attempting to conceal the evidence. I will continue to contact the police each and every time I see a crime being committed in my neighborhood. Doesn't matter to me who is committing the crime. The result is the same. It is dangerous for every single citizen in this City when crimes go unreported.

Bizurn
Fri Oct 9 2009 10:11
(...at least he wasn't born in the late 90's.

Or read the Comical to spam commenters.)

I just come for the free beer; how else am I supposed to save money for WoW?

wow.........
Thu Oct 8 2009 17:23
A guy who was on greek row in hte early 90's is still reading the Comical? Time ot move on!
Sig Ep Alum
Thu Oct 8 2009 15:15
I have to commend Sig Ep for making an effort to handle this situation as adults, and open up a dialogue with the neighbors. I'm proud to be a Sig Ep alum, and proud to say we made similar efforts in the early 90's to reach out to our neighbors and communicate concerns on both sides. This exposes one of the primary issues in maintaining open communication between parties, and that is the fact the membership, and more importantly, the leadership within fraternities and sororities changes constantly, and it's important for alumni who are still in the SLC area to stay involved and join in on these conversations, so new chapter leaders and members will develop a habit and tradition of productive discussion.

Also at issue is the common reaction from Greek organizations that the neighbors are picking on them. The "they knew they were moving next to Greek row, so what do they expect" reaction is one driven by ego and immaturity. It suggests that noise ordinances and other laws in place to ensure a neighborhood is habitable are exempt, and non-Greek residents don't have the right to ensure those laws are enforced. There are plenty of house parties and other loud functions that occur off of Greek row, and in most cases, the police are called to break those up, too. It's not just happening on 100 S, Wolcott St, and Federal Way, so get over yourselves.

Another consideration is that in a prominent neighborhood close to campus, many of those neighbors may be professors at the U, or in positions of leadership within the local business community. These are people you may be dependent upon for a grade, or eventually may be sitting across from in a job interview. Making good impressions and maintaining an attitude of professionalism and compromise might be much more important than you realize. Making poor impressions and refusing to see their side of the story might be good reason to leave any involvement with a Greek organization off of your resume.

Life is compromise, discussion, and negotiation. If you take advantage of your involvement in Greek life and learn these behaviors now, they will serve you well in your academic pursuits, and your career, and quite possibly help you resolve similar issues and embrace a new generation of Greek leaders should you be successful in the future and wish to purchase a house in the Federal Heights area.

Your name
Thu Oct 8 2009 15:08
Do away with the Greek system! Stop paying the university to find friends for you! Find your own! Then, all of this is solved and you yahoos just might get better grades! yay for you!
A proud SigEp alumnus
Thu Oct 8 2009 13:35
Hmmm, some strong emotional reations out there.

A big issue here is that bad behavior on the part of one fraternity or sorority gets labeled as a problem with "The Greeks" a a whole. If a fraternity or sorority member behaves outside the law, they SHOULD suffer the consequences. If a chapter does a poor job of enforcing their rules (that all do have in place), they SHOULD suffer consequences.

But should the rest of the Greeks suffer for it also? Lumping all of the Greeks together is as inaccurate as any other generalization. How is painting the problems of "the Greeks" with that wide a brushstroke any different that "the gays", "the blacks", "the Mormons", or "all women", etc? Choose any group you'd like - broad generalizations are just plain wrong. There is great variety of purpose, behavior, attitude, and maturity among the different Greek chapters and among the individual members.

Members of the Greek system absolutely need to take individual responsibility. And the chapters need to take responsibility for improper behavior when it occurs. No question about that. Just don't brand the entire Greek System for those incidents.

Further, most outsiders read of an incident and form their entire opinion of the Greek System on that. But many chapters are working to evolve, to be involved on campus and in the community, to develop mature, balanced, educated alumni who possess employable teamwork and leadership skills. Countless extremely successful business, political, and professional leaders have come out of the University of Utah's Greek System. And many more are being shaped right now.

Many Greeks are involved in philanthropic efforts and civic involvement. But those kinds of efforts aren't "news", so they don't get recognized. Part of the problem, frankly, is that most fraternities and sororities are rotten at public relations. They are not good at bragging about all of the positive things that they accomplish. (An open-minded reader could learn more about Sigma Phi Epsilon's values and programs at www.sigep.org. I'll bet that Mr. Beech would also welcome sincere inquiries about his fraternity, Sigma Phi Epsilon.)

So there are three important points here:

1. Greek System members clearly need to be more responsible. Their leaders need to consistently enforce the internal rules that most of them have in place. If Greeks want to be treated as adults, they need to ACT like adults. And if they screw up, they need to be punished. They need to understand CONSEQUENCE.

2. People outside the Greek System should recognize that not all Greeks are alike. And that generalizations are counterproductive if you are truly trying to understand other people.

3. Whether you are in the Greek System or outside of it, you can choose to treat the other side as enemies. That's the easy approach, and the least productive. It is easy to remain steadfastly closed-minded, not so easy to reach out. Not so easy to try to make things better. The harder approach is to sincerely invest some time and effort, to try to learn more about each other (and yourselves), and grow. Heck, you might even be able to get along one day. But only if you try.

I commend Cameron Beech and his chapter on trying to build a bridge from their organization to the neighborhood. I encourage them to continue their positive efforts, and for other Greek leaders to take similar steps. It is a newsworthy, positive approach. I also encourage Greek alumni from all fraternities and sororities to get involved with their chapter's alumni organizations, to be good role models for the undergraduates, to help ensure they have enjoyable, productive college careers. In my opinion, alumni owe that involvement with their chapters at some point in their lives - it is the best way that they can give back. Finally, I encourage neighbors around the Greek properties to work with Greeks who are willing to work with them. Build bridges, not barriers.

greek babysitter
Thu Oct 8 2009 12:55
100 years of problems proves that it is long past due the time for Greeks to move onto campus. The University, like a parent, should accept responsibility for its undisciplined children.
Your name
Thu Oct 8 2009 12:22
No, the problem is that when a law is broken, an individual should be punished - not an entire organization. If girls are screaming in the alleys in violation of noise ordinances, they should be ticketed. If a guy throws a beer bottle or can on someone else's lawn, he should be ticketed. (And, hello - it's Greek Row. Non-greeks show up to the parties. How are we to know if these jerks aren't just dorm kids who came down for the free beer and then left after making nuisances of themselves?) If, in the case of the Pikes (where no one knows who is responsible for the trash), the residence should be fined, for all members to pay. It won't be long before someone in that organization figures out who the offender is.

When the neighbors call the cops indiscriminately to complain about a dozen different organizations, having no idea who did what, the cops are just going to get fed up (as they have here), and Greeks (who also pay for the privilege of living in the neighborhood, and have been there much longer) start to feel beligerent about being treated like criminals.

Yes, chapters need to police themselves better, but as a former sorority president, I have to say most already do as much as they can. It's wrong and ineffective for the neighbors to be continually acting as if an entire group is responsible for the actions of a few.

anonymous
Thu Oct 8 2009 11:59
the neighbors knew when they moved there that it was near greek row. they moved there anyway. their house was probably cheaper because of that. they shouldnt expect something that has been there over 100 years to change. this didnt just spring up on them out of nowhere.
Go zoobs
Thu Oct 8 2009 11:43
Folks unaffiliated with the U's Greek scene, or who have never lived in the Federal Heights district, know nothing of what they speak, yet speak anyway. You know who else does that? BYU students.
Mr. Anonymous
Thu Oct 8 2009 08:59
Actually... the title of this article is incorrect. The Greeks have been communicating with their neighbors all along. When they blast their music and scream and hollar late at night during their parties, they are communicating utter contempt and disdain for their neighbors. And when the neighbors ask them to keep it down, the Greeks are communicating quite effectively, "SCREW YOU!!!" And when the neighbors communicate with the police and ask them to make an appearance and communicate with the Greeks on their behalf, the message is, "Try to be a good neighbor." And now that the Greeks are working on improving things, it isn't a matter of them trying to see eye to eye with the neighbors, and come to a greater understanding, its more a matter of the Greeks agreeing to stop acting like morons and start obeying the law. Not quite the "meeting of the minds" you are trying to portray.
Be a Grownup not a Greek
Thu Oct 8 2009 01:45
Uh, I fail to see why the neighbors SHOULDN'T call the police everytime Greek Row houses are being loud/obnoxious/whatever. People LIVE in that neighborhood, people who have lives that entail needing to sleep at night and not be annoyed by inconsiderate and immature neighbors.

If Greek life wants to continue it needs to grow up and behave like adults do in apartments, houses, etc all across the city, by shutting up and letting the neighbors live their lives IN PEACE. Frats and Sororities have shown time and time again they are incapable of maturity, so why should the neighbors even try?







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