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Oaks didn’t misuse First Amendment

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Published: Tuesday, October 27, 2009

Updated: Tuesday, October 27, 2009

Editor:

In his column (“Church, politics don’t mix” Oct. 19), Zack Oakey responds to Dallin Oaks’ assertion that the religiously organized have rights that non-religious people don’t have by quipping “would any Mormon agree to this in isolation, without (Oaks telling them to)?” Would any First Amendment proponent—Mormon or otherwise—not agree with this? If the Free Exercise Clause granted no unique rights that distinguish religious action from other actions, why is it in the Constitution at all? In attacking the clause, Oakey uses only extreme, unprotected examples of religious exercise (peyote smoking, etc.) and entirely ignores numerous other protected religious acts (requiring that employers reasonably seek to reschedule Sabbath observers, requiring dress code policies to reasonably accommodate religious apparel, etc.). It wasn’t politically inappropriate when Oaks noted that churches are also protected from unlawful retaliation. Who better to remind the religiously organized of their unique rights than a religious leader? In criticizing Oaks for not specifically defining lawful and unlawful retaliation, Oakey patronizingly assumed Oaks’ listeners couldn’t distinguish between picketing a building and vandalizing it, between criticizing an employee for his church’s positions and firing him because of those positions. Unlike Oakey, Oaks assumed listeners were smart enough to make these distinctions. Oakey’s rant both misunderstands the First Amendment and unfairly demeans 14 million people.

Adam Reiser,

Fourth-year graduate student

Law/MBA joint degree

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11 comments

Jeff Must Be Failing Law School
Sat Oct 31 2009 14:22
Jeff: First, you intentionally misinterpret everything you argue against. Second, you already believe Obama is the devil, so I guess that makes what you wrote about Oaks true, at least in your (warped) mind.
Jeff
Wed Oct 28 2009 01:45
Lisa,
no one's rights were taken away. Mormons didn't persecute anyone during the campaign to protect traditional marriage. You've intentionally misinterpreted Elder Oaks's comments for your personal gain, a highly unethical approach to any argument.
Your name
Tue Oct 27 2009 19:00
And all rejoiced at the return of Priss Pants McGee!
Lisa
Tue Oct 27 2009 18:06
The idea that the protests against Mormons after they helped to take away the civil rights of gay and lesbian Californians--American citizens were the same as the violence that met black protestors during the civil rights movement is idiocy on it's face. Mormons weren't the victims here--it wasn't their rights that were voted away by 2 percents. It wasn't Mormons who were the target of lying television ads. Mormons were the persecutors here--not the persecuted.
Jeff
Tue Oct 27 2009 17:25
if dallin h. oaks is a racist, homophobic fascist, then barack obama is the devil himself.
Your name
Tue Oct 27 2009 15:52
To Mr./Ms. "Tears The Wings Off Angels",

First, since it seems you sought clarification, "religiously organized" means those who gather on the basis of a shared religion.

Second, the unique rights granted to the religiously organized to which I referred are not rights to have special influence in the political process. If anything I said implied that's what I meant, please be assured it was not. The rights to which I was referring are best illustrated in the examples I set forth in my letter. To further expound on the examples:

a) Unique rights granted to religious Sabbath observers.

Assume employee "A" and employee "B" both desire to have Saturday off at the factory at which they both work. Employee "A" tells his boss his reason for wanting it off is because he wants to attend a sporting event. Employee "B's" reason is because he is a Saturday Sabbath observer. The employer is required to reasonably accommodate "B's" request, but not "A's." "B's" right, however, is not absolute. The employer must prove that he reasonably tried to accommodate "B"s request, but could not do so while balancing the interests of the factory as a whole. If the employer cannot prove this, "B" can seek damages from his employer if he is not allowed to have Saturday off. No such protection exists for employee "A." Employee "B" has a right "A" does not have (the right to reasonably be rescheduled) and that right is based entirely on "B's" claimed religious belief. Numerous cases have been handed down affording these unique protections to the religiously organized.

b) Dress code policy

Assume a school has a dress code policy prohibiting the wearing of necklaces. Student "A" wishes to wear a necklace strictly for fashion reasons. Student "B" wishes to wear a necklace for a religious reason (e.g. a star of David necklace). The school must reasonably accommodate "B's" request (again, the right is not absolute, but unless the school can show that it could not reasonably accommodate "B's" request while balancing the interests of the school as a whole, "B" must be allowed to wear her necklace). No such protection exists for student "A." Student B receives a unique right--the right to an exception to school dress code policy (again, assuming the school cannot prove that making this accommodation would be unreasonable)--solely because of her religious belief. Again, numerous cases have been handed down protecting the rights of the religiously organized in matters like this.

You are right in that everyone gets the same right to worship. But because many will choose not to worship, those who do choose to worship are granted unique rights non-worshipers do not have. The rights becomes operative as soon as one claims a religious belief--but not until then.

I hope that clears up any misconceptions or confusions with my letter. If not, shoot me a response and I'll see if I can't be of any more assistance to you.

Kind regards,

Adam Reiser

Brigham
Tue Oct 27 2009 13:40
Dallin "Sieg Heil" Oaks has a First Amendment right to express his racist, homophobic opinions, and the rest of of have a First Amendment right to call him a fascist geezer because of his despicable opinions. I don't understand why Mormons think they are immune from criticism when they pull their stupid BS and try to deny other people civil rights.
I read his speech, did you?
Tue Oct 27 2009 13:24
Oaks spoke out against the vandalizing, intimidating, threatening, and retaliation specifically against prop 8 supporters during and after the election. He made a calculated comparison to similar acts against the civil rights movement, saying both are "anti-democratic." In a different speech, he equally condemns such actions against anyone in this country, especially prop 8 opponents.

So if he is "just wrong", and our country is fine with voter intimidation and retaliation--regardless of your political persuasion, then we are in trouble.

I for one champion Elder Oaks for what he said, not for what others are falsely claiming he said.

TearsTheWingsOffAngels
Tue Oct 27 2009 12:45
If anyone is asserting that the 1st Amendment confers special rights on "the religiously organized" (whatever the heck that's supposed to mean), they are so dead wrong, they couldn't be any more dead wrong than if they asserted that the Moon is made of green cheese.

The 1st Amendment's "free exercise" clause gives everyone the *same* right: to worship (or not worship) as they see fit, without undue interference from the state. (Where "undue interference" makes allowances for preventing things like human sacrifice or drug abuse.) But Oaks or any other member of an organized religion has no additional rights (to speak his mind or influence elections, for example) that anyone else doesn't also have. In fact, the tax exempt status of religious organizations is specifically tied to certain limitations on their activities, a limitation that is perfectly within the bounds of the 1st Amendment's free exercise clause.

I do hope that I've merely misunderstood what Mr Reiser, who is a student at our highly rated Law School, was suggesting, and not that a fourth year student at the S.J. Quinney School of Law would manage to misconstrue such basic aspects of our Constitution.

Mr. Anonymous
Tue Oct 27 2009 12:36
Oakes did not say anything even approaching "staggerinly stupid"... he just reinforced the beliefs of his church, and I might add... what the majority of Americans believe.
Lisa
Tue Oct 27 2009 12:16
I was unaware that there was a movement to get the government to fire Dallin Oaks.

Oaks didn't "misuse the First Amendment" he was just wrong and has said some staggeringly stupid things. If People feel so inclined they have the right to criticize and protest against him. The First Amendment works both ways.







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