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Racism at the U is shameful

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Published: Wednesday, September 9, 2009

Updated: Wednesday, September 9, 2009

Editor:
I’m proud to be an alumnus of the U—except when I’m ashamed. Yesterday, while visiting the campus, my wife heard an employee at the Red Onion Cafe refer to an African-American woman as “flat-nose” and “tree-climber” when it came into question whether the woman had paid for a drink refill.

I have lived in the still somewhat racially charged South for 10 years now. And I have never heard such language come from the mouth of a Tennessean. To come back to Utah and witness such blatant racism and hatred is disillusioning, to say the least.

I know that racial harmony has progressed at least somewhat in this state in the last 40 years—perhaps this just doesn’t apply to certain employees of the Red Onion. Needless to say, my wife and I (and many of our friends) will not be patronizing this establishment again.

Matthew Flinner,
U Alumnus
Nashville, Tenn.

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20 comments

all humans are equal
Tue Oct 6 2009 19:03
I think racism exists. Someone I know moved from Utah and she is very racist, in an area where there is a cosmopolitan population. She hates everyone of color, and only likes to be surrounded by white people. Disgusting!!!!
Your name
Wed Sep 30 2009 17:02
juicybanana is a racist...go home, we don't need haters here. Your probably here on a scholorship anyways...wonder what sport you play?
Jeff
Mon Sep 14 2009 19:35
i think the president of the united states is the epitomy of racism, he pitched his "typical white grandmother" under the bus to further his political agenda. Just what is a typical white grandmother? one that pays for your butt to go to a private high school, takes care of you when your parents don't? sounds awful...
Your name
Mon Sep 14 2009 10:56
What is wrong with people asking where you are from on a continous basis? Don't see it as an iritation, but more as a form of power to show people what you mean. Most people on this board seem to be angry, instead of channeling their ideas into something more productive. Well, I guess I shouldn't assume everyone here is not doing SOMETHING to change the enviroment they dislike. But this just means we need to work together, instead of continuing to hate, because he/she is white, or he/she is "other"...creating definitive lines based on race to fight racism does not work.
Clementine
Fri Sep 11 2009 16:51
I'm seeing a lot of what was seen at the Red Onion on this board. . .
Delphie
Fri Sep 11 2009 15:48
Hey juicybananas:

A black, a mexican, and a jew walk into a bar...

Dave
Fri Sep 11 2009 12:37
Thank you for stereotyping me. I guess your next step is to say "now you know how it feels." You're doing a bang-up job at eliminating racism by being a racist yourself. Congratulations.
Tom the Slavic Warrior
Fri Sep 11 2009 10:07
Mike, retard? Really? I think it is time that you grew up.
Re: Mike W
Fri Sep 11 2009 07:49
Mike, please tell me you didn't just try to cite the American Anthropological Society on what it means to be racist, and then follow up by calling the person who made the racist remarks a "retard". Perhaps you should start by defining what it means to be prejudiced before you use a disparaging term for the mentally handicapped as your insult of choice.
Castillo
Thu Sep 10 2009 20:23
No kidding stormy.

I HATE when people ask me "Where are you from?" I have never in my life been asked that stupid question so many times. I'm from California and people could care less where you're from. I cannot believe how racist and disgusting this area is.

This actually happened to me in Utah. I was at the store in line with my groceries and the cashier would scan and tell the price to the customer in english. One by one all the people ahead of me were given their totals in english and then when my groceries were scanned and my total given to me, the cashier told me my total in a pathetic bad accented attempt at spanish!!! What racism!!! Single out someone because of their appearance and treating them different? How is that not blatant racism? It makes me so mad. I hate this place and I hate this racist school.

stormyfox6
Thu Sep 10 2009 18:46
So typical! Someone asking me to justify racism! Read a book on this! Do your homework!

Fine I’ll go ahead and indulge in your

1. I was asked not once or twice but three time "Where are you from? or "What are you?"
2. Someone on a skateboard yelled ‘f*ggot; to me and my friend as we were walking by the union – granted this is not racism but it is still bigotry
3. me and a friend were bypassed at a restaurant for a white couple that was behind me in line. (this is one that happens a lot.)
4. I was accused of supporting Obama in class only because he is a person of color (I often cannot talk about politics without my race being the central discourse and motive)
5. I talked to someone in power (a staff member at the U) about an important issue to me and was completely ignored. This happens a lot and in talking with my colleagues of color, we often share these feelings and experience.
6. When trying to have a real and honest conversation about these issues and saying “this isolated experience echoes a whole series of incidents (microagression) many student of color experience day to day on this campus” my experience was called into question (with a bs flag.) Something that really happens when people (often white people) deny or try and invalidate the experiences of people of color.

I can keep going…

This is all this week pal (just 3 days). Imagine this and other irritating things repeating every day! Now these may not seem like big things but when they add up, they create a negative campus climate that is often hostile for many students of color. (please feel free to look at the collage retention data among students of color and racial battle fatigue.) And in some cases (particularly in banks, business settings, etc.) people are just plain rude – treatment that does not match my white colleagues. My point is that this behavior does not surprise me and that racism is a day to day thing for many students. It not always so blatant (in the Red Onion case it is) but we know that based on our experiences that this is an attitude that is very real and an attitude that systematically isolates people of color. I also think people of color are very strong and knowledgeable about navigating these microagressions – so please don’t feel sorry for me or view me as a martyr!... just do something about your people! Educate yourself. The problem is with you not me. I don’t need a tougher skin, you need to stop poking me or get your people to stop poking me!

Dave
Thu Sep 10 2009 14:05
Stormy Fox, I'm going to go ahead and throw the BS flag on your comments unless you can provide me with one specific example from every day this week where you've "fought this fight." Quit making a martyr of yourself.
stormy fox 3435
Thu Sep 10 2009 12:47
its still on the U campus. and this isolated experience echoes a whole series of incidents (microagression) many student of color experience day to day on this campus. juicybannanas response is so right on the head. It is often so discouraging attending this institution and fighting this fight everyday. It is not an education when you are continuously having to educate others (students, professors, staff, admin, red onion staff, etc.) to not be racist! A hostile campus environment for students of color re-enforces the notion of white supremacy. The questions is: what are people at every level (students, faculty, admin, staff, red onion, etc.) doing to address this? Will people take responsibility for a racist campus culture and try to make it safer or will they sweep this under the rug and let it get worse. This school has a lot of work to do!!! This is totally unacceptable!
Your name
Thu Sep 10 2009 11:34
Unfortunately, there is this common misconception that all buildings around the U campus (such as research square) are owned/ran by the University. Red Onion happens to be a business that is not ran by the University. Maybe, a complaint to the business owner would be more effective.
juicybananas
Thu Sep 10 2009 03:46
I hate the University of Utah. The only reason I attend this joke of a school is because my scholarship only works in the state of Utah and I didn't want to travel too far. I look around in all of my classes are there are only about two non-white students tops. I feel sorry for the minority students because they got suckered into this "school". This racist, bigoted hellhole is pathetic. It's the white shoe boy's club and everyone is so cold and unfriendly it's disgusting. I always suspected the people were saying racist things like this behind your back but now thanks to the Red Onion I know I was right the whole time. I tell all my friends and everyone I know not to attend this university.
stormy fox 3435
Thu Sep 10 2009 00:09
um those studies are racist Mike W. Most sociologist and communication theorists would disagree with those findings. Race is very real and al though it is socially constructed (with no biological reasoning) it has some very real life impact! We can take a look at our many institutions (criminal justice, education, health care, housing, politics, entertainment/media, etc.) and see evidence of racism! Here at the U, racial perceptions echo that of these institutions reflecting that these are deeper societal issues. If not addressed in honest, critical ways and action, it will progressively get worse! I hear the type of stuff that Matt heard at the Red Onion everyday and I'm glad that someone is speaking out and saying it is not okay! So few people do.
Mike W
Wed Sep 9 2009 17:52
Hey Matt, chill out. Racism is horrible, in fact, using the term "African-American" is a racial term, which makes you a racist. In fact, believing in race, makes you a racist. (If you are confused about my previous statement please read the American Anthropological Society's statement on racism - or any European Anthropological group's statement on racism).

Just because 1 retard uses a racial slurs shouldn't make you ashamed of the U. If you were at Harvard or Stanford would you be ashamed of your school cause 1 person uses a racial slur? No of course not - don't be stupid. What does the University of Utah have to do with 1 persons comments? NOTHING

I'm sorry you're incapable of separating your feelings about the University of Utah and the comments of some ignorant individual. I'm ashamed of you, a Utah Alumnus, for your irrational feelings, but I'm not ashamed of the University of Utah - because I am capable of separating my feelings for the school I love, and 1 stupid person.

Steve
Wed Sep 9 2009 15:11
We should all be ashamed. And I've heard some things said about President Obama that make me ashamed to live in Utah. I think his presidency has revealed a very ugly underbelly in Utah, especially north and south of Salt Lake City, where I have heard racial speach again and again. We also see it in the legislature. Not because of one man, but because he was actually re-elected when the electorate knew he was racist.
Tammy
Wed Sep 9 2009 13:29
Just because you hear one idiots comment does not mean that the entire Utah population is racist. It offends me that I am automatically lumped into a group of a racists because I live here. I dare say comments like that are more rare than the norm.
racism sucks
Wed Sep 9 2009 11:24
I go to the red onion quite a bit and this does not surprise me! im glad someone wrote this cause sometime i think its just me! this is awful and worth an inquire from red onion management!






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